Curse

I Might Avenge U · Oct 29, 2007, 03:54 AM // 03:54

I'm waiting on one last article, so it looks like the release date will actually be right on or around Halloween. We have some just real great articles here, and if anyone would like to write another real quick, I don't mind extending the deadline a bit.

I think the column set up will be the final product. Anyways, Hopefully everyone will be impressed with our debut!

Woop Shotty · Oct 29, 2007, 07:27 PM // 19:27

May I suggest Lorem Ipsum filler instead of Blah blippety blah?

I Might Avenge U · Oct 30, 2007, 02:50 AM // 02:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woop Shotty

May I suggest Lorem Ipsum filler instead of Blah blippety blah?

I "wikied" it and all I got was something about design. What I inferred was that you are hoping for a good consistent design? If so then, the first magazine release may come out a bit odd, but as we go through every magazine it will get better. We just need to build precedence and accept criticism. My actual use of photoshop and no MS Paint should help with that.

Woop Shotty · Oct 30, 2007, 03:52 AM // 03:52

Number one Google search is a Lorem Ipsum generator site. What I was suggesting is that instead of filling your empty page with something like "blah blah blah" you should at least put Lorem Ipsum text in there. You'll have more realistic temporary text for placement purposes.

I'm sure most people have seen it done before.

Oh, yes. Can I ask why you're making a magazine with Photoshop? I assume you want people to read or look at your creation. Layout belongs in Indesign or some alternative. Hey, even open source OpenOffice has a PDF export option and your images can be laid out across your documents. If choosing between PDF with selectable text or a set of individual rasters, the former would be my choice.

I Might Avenge U · Oct 30, 2007, 04:45 AM // 04:45

Yeah, I saw the text generator.. It's interesting.. I might find a use for it later, if I figure out how to work it..

Anyways, I make the magazine with Photoshop simply because I am new to these concepts and I want to choose a program that I am comfortable with. Maybe later I will choose a different program that is "more suited" to making .PDF format. For the time being, I will use photoshop as I am more comfortable and happier with it. For the simple merging of images, I find photoshop will be capable of doing the job.

I am glad that you have sparked some interesting in the project.. but may I ask why? Did something go wrong with a former magazine you liked/worked for, and you're just giving me a heads up, or are you just simply critiquing my work before it's ready to be critiqued?

Woop Shotty · Oct 30, 2007, 11:21 PM // 23:21

I don't think I was trying to critique your work. I was only suggesting things based off of what I know. I'm a student graphic artist FYI.

Good luck with the project.

Nian · Oct 30, 2007, 11:28 PM // 23:28

Rofl @ Lorem Ipsum. I thought blah blibbity blah was pretty funny. XD You can msot easily generate Lorem Ipsum blabla at lipsum.net it's just something more generally used as filler text. I see it most often being used by web designers on website templates etc. They love it.

Anyway!! I can't wait for the first issue to come out! >.< *impatiently waiting*

I Might Avenge U · Nov 01, 2007, 05:48 AM // 05:48

@ Woop Shotty: I didn't mean anything I said in a rude way.. if that's how it seemed I am sorry..

@ Nian and other People waiting: I have decided that I can't make a cover for crap, so I am going to spend this weekend developing the things I need for the magazine. So For the time being I am not going to release the first magazine until Sunday or Monday simply because it means a better magazine overall... I am sorry, but as you guys have said in the past, It's best not to rush things..

Friday · Nov 01, 2007, 02:47 PM // 14:47

No rush Imau.

Take your time and make it ROCK!!

legendary_Ace · Nov 01, 2007, 06:22 PM // 18:22

Yes, Yes, No rush *rush rush*

I can kinda try to work on cover, since I love design, I'll havta talk to you 'bout it.

I Might Avenge U · Nov 05, 2007, 04:18 AM // 04:18

So far it's looking like the release will be tomorrow.. maybe Tuesday... maybe...

I Might Avenge U · Nov 07, 2007, 03:21 AM // 03:21

Alright guys, the magazine is done, but I am waiting on a few things and I am absolutely out of time today.. Tomorrow for sure! Thanks for being so patient!

~IMAU

legendary_Ace · Nov 08, 2007, 06:40 AM // 06:40

IMAU is having trouble uploading it, so here it is:

http://www.badongo.com/file/5052775

Keep in mind, Yes it needs tweaks. But it will be better in the next issue. Lets give IMAU a big applause for his hard work!

Mr. G · Nov 08, 2007, 08:45 PM // 20:45

oooh /excited

haven't read it yet, but be sure ill have plenty of comments when I'm done...

Here we go (hope you don't take any of these the wrong way):
-The flow is a little...off, keep having to zoom in/out to read it tbh (---)
-nice simple backgrounds (+)
-Some advise rubs me the wrong way, but then again its a matter of opinion (Monks - DO carry a res for example or the zealous love of rebirth) (-)
-Ranger page hurts my eyes (---)
-nice art from greyfox (+++)
-nice note from the editor(++)

total.....

++++++ (6)
------- (7)

I Might Avenge U · Nov 27, 2007, 11:47 PM // 23:47

Hello everyone! I know I have been away a long time... recently I've had to deal with a lot of different problems, and there are still a few things to get done before I am completely free of problem, but for now, I am able to at least jump online, if just for this post.

Just because I have been gone for a few weeks or so, does not mean that I have completely forgotten about the magazine. To the contray, I have had much time to think about where I want this idea to go, and how well I want it to achieve. Because of my recent problems, I have realised that it would be ideal for me to allow others to help, in order to reliquish some of my own duties. I have recently decided on many reformations that I hope will revist some of the problems we had with the first magazine, and hopefully solve them in a way that will not only benefit myself, but the other contributors to this small group. So let's go over these things I have been considering...

First of all, all my previous writers are fired (before you complain, you may want to continue reading)

Salary

As the main editor behind this project, I have decided on a simple fact: People will not do something for nothing. Those of you that did in fact decide that they wanted to help with our first magazine, I am aware of the tremendous help you guys have been, but for some reason or another, you simply did not write for nothing. Whether is be experience, help, or fun, each of you had a reason to write. So henceforth, I will be hiring people for a salary of Guild Wars gold. This offers the chance for you to help out, but it also allows me to give out incentive for others to join in on the project. Anyone can sign up to join (including those who have written for me before), but there will be a stricter policy in which to follow. Here is what I have decided upon:

Position

Availibility

Salary

Writer

4 Spots Availible

15k per issue

Interviewer

2 Spots Availible

10k per issue

Guide Writer

2 Spots Availible

20k per issue

Vice Editor

1 Spot Availible

20k per issue

Understand that I will expect more out of the higher paying jobs. also note, These are baseline salaries, and each position is subject to a raise in salary is I find that it is worth the extra money.

Job Descriptions

Writers
When writing there is a 5 page minimum per article. Margins are to be 1 inch, Times New Roman font, and a size 12 font. Articles can be on anything Guild Wars. Events, holidays, Certain items, New techniques. This is completely up to you. (No Collaboration on anything lower than 9 pages)

Interviewers
Articles have a 4 page minimum. 1 inch margins, Times New Roman font, Size 12 font. Interviews can be on any subject. Interview must include the name of interviewee, and must be in paragraph format, as opposed to a Q & A format. (Collaborations allowed at 4 pages)

Guide Writer
Guides are to be no less than 15 steps long, and must have at least 1 paragraph per step. Guides can be on anything, this is completely up to you. (Collaborations allowed on every guide)

Vice-Editor
Vice-Editor is an important member that will help myself and keep this project running, while releasing some of the responsibilities of myself. A vice editor must be open to quick revisions, and adaptive to many parts of this project, as they are subject to change. The Vice-Editor will proof articles, and therefore must be well-versed in grammatical errors, and typical writing errors.

Make sure to be confident that you can actually "do" what your job entails.

Guild Adspace

I have decided that, like most magazines, we will sell adspace to fund jobs and other things entailed in this project. This again will be Guild Wars Gold Only

Here is a pricing guide to how I will be selling adspace.

Page

Price

Page 2

30k

Page 5

25k

Page 10

20k

Page 12

20k

Page 15

20k

Backpage

40k

Design

I noticed that a major problem with the last magazine was a lack of of consistent design. There must be constant design throughout the entire magazine, unless there is a specific article (like a featured article). So, be prepared to see some changes in design, as well as some changes in cover page design over the next few issue. This may/probably will change dramatically over the next few issues.

legendary_Ace · Nov 28, 2007, 12:39 AM // 00:39

Wow. Thats real nice IMAU.

I'll sign up for any position you think suits me best.

Maybe General Writing or Guide Writer?

Nian · Nov 28, 2007, 08:58 AM // 08:58

I think it's a nice idea but it needs some work. Since you are still sort of taking ground for yourself and starting out, having too strict qualifications can be a bit disorienting. In the last mag I think the articles were rushed because of the sudden deadline. Concentrate more on what's in the articles instead of the layout. Give writers enough time and inspiration etc. Money is nice but it isn't an instant solution to other issues or raising the bar.

The article sizes could be a bit too long. 4-5 pages is where it gets boring and repetitive when the writers run out of actual content. That's why there should be more smaller articles. Also about the guides...maybe a fun magazine should concentrate more on funny/silly gossip articles revolving around Tyrias famous NPC's instead of guides. How about Devona's secret bikini photoshoot scandal, an interview with Shiro on his goals in life or something of the sort. A fake made up gallup on who thinks Varesh is hot etc. Consider also including "fan fiction" as "reader written novels" etc. An article about farming could be: and article about some player chara tending an actual farm and giving guides on how to plant potatoes... Tyrian history is also an interesting topic. What went on when the gods were still living in Tyria, history of the Mursaat and past kingdoms etc.

Ok so that's just my opinion and it's really up to you. Nevertheless good luck with this project! I hope you don't find this post offensive. I rarely critizise and you aren't directly asking for crits either but I really think this could be something interesting but does need some work. If I didn't care I would not have written. Granted I'm being blunt here. Just take it as one persons opinion.

Edit:// I take back abit of what I said on article length. I thought about it and I guess what I meant was that maybe the current system will limit those people who only have time to write one article at a time be it any length. Even if it was a really good article but it doesn't fit the requirements there should be no reason for it to NOT be published. I'm not saying having a long article is bad and the main article should ofcourse be a long one but that having all articles fit the same length might be a hinderance more than an advantage(I'm not sure wheter pictures are now counted as content since ofcourse there should be lot of pictures too). The editor is naturally the one who should make the cut on what gets shown and what not. I mean you should be the quality boss instead of the article length.

Friday · Nov 28, 2007, 11:58 AM // 11:58

Hi

I think Nian's ideas about article length and content are worth looking at seriously. Thanks for a great post Nian!

I also support the idea of articles of various length - there is definitely a place for 1 page "shorts" in a fun mag. And some of Nian's content ideas are really great.

I can help with various articles, if needed, IMAU. I will try to get some together for you look over soon. You can decide if they warrant inclusion in future mags

good luck and have fun!

Friday

ravensong · Nov 28, 2007, 02:42 PM // 14:42

Very nice idea!

I vote Nian for next fetured artist!

legendary_Ace · Nov 29, 2007, 07:23 PM // 19:23

I agree, length isn't always the best.